Archive for July 2013

Goodman Follies: Roger Drives High While Writing Harsh DUI laws

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Goodman Follies: Roger Goodman and the “Impaired Driving Working Group”

Thanks to unusually stiff laws requiring interlocks for all DUI offenders seeking to drive, nearly 20,000 residents here use the alcohol-sensing devices. That puts Washington among the top-five states for interlock use.

And new legislation aimed at boosting enforcement of interlock orders would give the industry an estimated 4,500 more customers per year.

The proposal, like previous ones, came out of a public Impaired Driving Working Group founded by Goodman, the Kirkland lawmaker, in 2007.

“The companies are salivating,” said state Rep. Roger Goodman, a Kirkland Democrat and architect of the bill. “They’re in these meetings and they have to kind of bite their tongues at how excited they are.”

“We’ve had about 25,000 (devices installed) over the course of the last couple of years. This might double those numbers,” said Goodman.

Luce, then a 20-year State Patrol veteran specializing in breath tests, has participated in the group since the beginning. So has Stanton.

That made the state industry profitable “overnight,” said Stanton, emphasizing he lost money here for a decade beforehand.

Stanton has also frequently donated to campaigns. Last year, he contributed nearly $7,000 to Goodman’s, according to the Public Disclosure Commission.

This new DUI bill requires drivers who are arrested for suspicion of driving under the influence of marijuana to install these alcohol interlock devices, even before going to trial. Representative Goodman admits that these devices are worthless for detecting THC and that it doesn’t make any sense, but that didn’t stop him from helping out his benefactors in the alcohol interlock industry increase their yearly profits.

If Goodman makes the unfortunate decision to run for another legislature term, you’re likely to see alcohol interlock devices for a wide variety of non-alcohol related driving infractions. Window tint too dark? Solution: alcohol interlock device.

It’s definitely time to investigate Goodman and this mysterious “Impaired Driving Working Group”, started by Goodman in 2007. This group appears to have no official membership list, no official status, holds no public hearings, and yet these industry executives members appear to be working within the framework of this mystery group to establish public policies that directly determine their own personal profits.

“There really should be a study into who owns the ignition-interlock devices and who participates in legislation,” said state Rep. Sherry Appleton, D-Poulsbo, in a public hearing last Wednesday. “I think there’s something going on there.”

Sources:Anti-DUI interlock companies in state helped set own rules – Seattle Times

Public records request document uncovered by Cannabis Action Coalition’s Arthur West…

Subject: Impaired Driving Bill Draft – BIG Problem!!! RCW 46.04.215 and 43.43.395


The changes to RCW 43.43.395 (Bill Sec. 6) and RCW 46.04.215 (Bill Sec. 9) whereby Ignition Interlock becomes Certified alcohol monitoring device MUST be reversed!

“Ignition interlock” has specific meanings in Federal law, and has encompassed thirty years of research in dozens of studies and has led to specific recommendations by the highway safety community. Also “ignition interlock” is used elsewhere in the RCW (e.g., Ignition Interlock License) .

Changing “ignition interlock” to “certified alcohol monitoring device” will be a massive step backwards that simply can’t happen.

I apologize to everyone because I am certain the confusion began with my using these two sections as the basis for granting WSP the authority to develop standards for alcohol monitoring devices OTHER THAN ignition interlocks as we discussed at last week’s working group meeting. As you may recall, the group decided attempting to establish such standards in the absence of Federal standards was neither practical nor wise.

Unfortunately, the amended language I had proposed to become the basis for new RCW Sections for other devices, became changes to the existing authority and standards for ignition interlocks leading to more than seventy changes in the proposed bill.

I am sorry for the extra work this confusion has and will cause the bill drafter (Ms. Walker, I presume). On a positive note, thank you for including language on Page 38 as a first step to deal with compliance based removal issues.

On another positive note, the senior member of the ignition interlock provider community will be providing refreshments at the next meeting of the Impaired Driving Working Group!


Jerry Stanton

RE_ Impaired Driving Bill Draft _16!01!2013_1600533555 by John Novak

Police Lobbyists Are Trying to Kill Off Medical Cannabis

The medical cannabis bill that would have regulated the medical cannabis industry in Washington State was passed by the legislators back in 2011.

Then Governor Gregoire vetoed those sections in the bill that would have regulated the industry.

  SB 5073 Partial Veto Letter by John Novak

She said the reason was fear of putting state officials at risk for prosecution based on a letter she got back from Federal Attorneys on the matter.

  DurKan Gregoire Letter by John Novak 

Well, it turns out that state officials are protected from prosecution under Federal Law…

United States Code


SECTION 885 (d)

Burden of proof; liabilities

(d) Immunity of Federal, State, local and other officials

Except as provided in sections 2234 and 2235 of title 18, no civil or criminal liability shall be imposed by virtue of this subchapter upon any duly authorized Federal officer lawfully engaged in the enforcement of this subchapter, or upon any duly authorized officer of any State, territory, political subdivision thereof, the District of Columbia, or any possession of the United States, who shall be lawfully engaged in the enforcement of any law or municipal ordinance relating to controlled substances.

Why would the federal attorneys and our former Governor (also an attorney) say those things if there was no risk of prosecution?

Are we really supposed to believe they didn’t know this law exists?

So if not that, then what is the real reason the medical cannabis industry remains “unregulated”?

The State Law Enforcement Lobbyist group, Washington Association Sheriffs and Police Chiefs (WASPC) did not want a regulated medical industry.  They are obviously one of the most powerful lobby groups in this state because they got exactly what they asked for in this letter sent to the Governor just days before she vetoed the regulated medical industry.

Cannabis Action Coalition members filed a public request for documents and uncovered the letter…

WASPC Letter to Governor by John Novak

Now WASPC are making the “untaxed and unregulated”, “fraudulent” and “greedy” medical industry they created two years ago out to be the main threat to the I-502 recreational model. All the press have been writing this story as gospel.  You’ll hear the lie repeated like a mantra that 90% of patients are not sick and all the collective owners are black market drug dealers using loopholes to get rich.

The Liquor Control board went on the record repeating these attacks and false information they heard from WASPC about medical cannabis to the press, but more importantly to a House Finance Committe hearing as seen here…

Link for this video:

If the lobbyists, legislators and other officials get their way, the medical laws on cannabis as we know it now will be gutted in favor of the recreational model.  The plans are now on display:


Initiative 502 Initial Draft Rules

2013 House State Budget Bill Amendment to require LCB involvement in medical cannabis